QPR REPORT

Wednesday, January 09, 2008

 

QPR's Change in Fortune: Alarm and Depression From One Corner

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[Update: Note in response to criticism of his article, Mick Dennis responded to criticism.]

Mick Dennis/Daily Express - This is no Way to Go
FITZ HALL is an unlikely ­harbinger of revolution. The defender has played for six clubs without getting noticed for much other than his wonderful nickname – One Size.
But Hall has just joined his seventh club, Queens Park Rangers. They have signed seven other players in the first eight days of the transfer window and are starting to restructure the football landscape.
QPR fans gloat that their club is now the richest on the planet. Formula One tycoons Bernie Ecclestone and Flavio Briatore bought control in August. Last month, they flogged a fifth of the club to Lakshmi Mittal, the wealthiest person in the UK and the fifth richest in the world.
QPR lost the war of the wads with Roman Abramovich’s Chelsea in the FA Cup, and their January purchases have been of workmanlike players, such as Hall.
Yet everybody assumes that QPR will start to climb, and we are all waiting to see whether the new rulers intend to spend enough to establish the London club near the top of the Premier League. It is a prospect which is utterly alarming and deeply depressing. The QPR deal has reshaped football's landscape.
Rich owners are not a new development. English football was shaped by them. Edwardian factory owners, who wanted their works team to beat rival factory teams, lured better ­players by paying them. The ground rules were set – a rich man could try to make his team better than the rest.
But the stakes were raised when Abramovich flew over London, looked down at Stamford Bridge and, like Little Britain’s Andy, said: “Want that one.”
Abramovich’s example led the world’s super-rich to the Premier League and now they are moving into the Championship.
Queen’s Park Rangers have been a ­shabby, shoddy little outfit for decades. You can tell a lot about a club’s ethos by the way they treat away fans, and anyone who has huddled in the dank, decrepit away end at Loftus Road will tell you how much the club has been allowed to decay.
Yet QPR could now cruise out of the Football League because of an accident of geography – Loftus Road just happens to be quite handy for Mittal’s £57million home in Kensington Palace Gardens.
At other clubs folk toil away to pay bills on time, work hard to improve stadiums and strive to get the football right. On that treadmill, you have to run to stand still, and all that drives you is the hope that your ­manager might piece together a sequence of results which will bring some success.
The arrival of Ecclestone, Briatore and Mittal threatens to crush that hope
. Daily Express

Comments:
Yes, it's so sad, such a shame. Guess us R's fans will just have to live with it eh.
 
whoever wrote this is an absolute fool who knows nuffin bout r club, so shut up n stick 2 ya fairy tale stories
 
Mr Dennis, your feelings towards QPR are well known from your days of writing falsehoods and unsubstantiated rumour as fact in the Evening Standard. It's nice to see your own standards haven't dropped.

For your information, the landscape of football changed not with the arrival of Messrs Briatore, Ecclestone and Mittal, but with the arrival of Sky Television. As soon as the top teams saw the pot of gold, and realised that the rainbow ended right in the middle of their stadia, the pursuit of riches overtook the pursuit of trophies as the main driver for all Premiership clubs and those who aspired to join them. Chelsea are a prime example - without Mr Abramovich's intervention, would they be the club they are today? No, of course not. But the difference between the Haves and the Have Nots in the footballing world has never been more starkly shown than at the change in Chelsea's fortunes over the last eight years.

Premiership trophies? Shared amongst three clubs in eleven years. FA Cups? Shared amongst just four. Competition? Non-existent. Unless you have money.

So please - don't try to pass off your own dislike for one of London's best-supported clubs as a newsworthy story by blaming us for everything that is bad in the game today.

Your efforts would be better served in trying to convince the teams at the pinnacle of the game - Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool - to 'share the wealth' by helping the flow of resources down the tree to the grass-roots players. That way we ALL benefit from the added finance slopping around the beautiful game - not just an elite few.

Oh - and be happy for us, not simply jealous that it wasn't your team that got the investment.
 
What a sad little man you are Dennis. Every fans' dream is to see the benift of rich owners. Obviously your sad little club has no cash. As for.... "Queen’s Park Rangers have been a ­shabby, shoddy little outfit for decades" Who the hell are YOU call us that! Call yourself a fan of football. Get a life you jealous dawlf. Ps want to borrow some cash ???
 
shrimpmeister yor an absolute legend, agree wiv everything u said, u r'ssssssssssssss, just cos were going places people cant handle it.
 
Sorry, what a load of CRAP. Rangers have struggled withy no money since early 1990's when the owner Thompson managed to filter away money brought in by selling our best palyers i.e Ferdinand, Peacock etc and replacing them with substandard players hence our financial position for the last 12 years leaving us with huge debts and finding out that some of our youth players were on £100,00 + a year. We eventually went into administration and managed to get out of it by paying our debts £1 per £1, not as Leeds who paid almost zero per £1 when thay got in the same situation. What happened to Thompson when he left Rangers and formed a consortium - where - Leeds Utd - what a strange coincidence. We paid off our debts by taking out a £10 million loan against our ground and have been paying £1 million a year ever since just to pay off the interest and are still doing so, Any players we have signed in this time have been free transfers, players out of contract or paid for by a supporter. This article sounds like sour grapes and could be written by a Brentford, Fulham or Chelsea supporter.
It was ok for Fulham, Chelsea, Blackburn etc to have rich backers and I find the comments unacceptable, about time something went our way and I think you'll find that Rangers owners are building from the grassroots upwards not ready made players i.e Chelsea, Fulham etc and with a majority being English players so whats wrong with that?
 
Well said "shimpmeister".

It reads as a bitter and twisted account of a situation that any club in the country would grasp firmly with both hands if the situation arose.

The fact is, it is amazing that somebody hasn't realised the potential at Loftus Road sooner.

Clearly this team of successful businessmen have now; and their intentions are seemingly clear from where I am standing!

So for all at QPR (and even you Mr Dennis!!) watch as the club turns itself around and enjoys the heady days of success with some great support: from both the terraces and from the businessmen that have stepped up!

Many are gloating - but you know what they are the same people who have put up with the years of never knowing if we would come through this. It seems we are now, and we all can't wait to make it to the Premiership and let all the fans around the world have a chance to watch our club on Sky, Setanta and any other channels that want to show us!!

I'm looking forward to it!!!! And your sour words, Mr Dennis, will never stop me from enjoying it too!
 
Who is Mick Dennis of the Daily Express. He of course works for a newspaper taken over by a person who made a fortune out of porn.
Look at your own situation Mr Dennis and go and work for a proper newspaper - it probably won't pay you as much but you could then down size into a smaller hovel and write stories on more pressing debates rather than knocking a group of people trying to improve one of London's great clubs who had fallen on hard times.
 
Prick dennis.. nuff said
 
Just a nobody trying to incite a response... sad really
 
dont really feel the need to say anything, everyone else said it so brilliantly
 
Maybe Mr dennis's first name should be Les.Because only a joker could write such nonsense.Stick to writing about something you know about which certainly is'nt football.
 
Mr. Dennis you are a complete and utter tool of the highest order.

Have you any idea about the history of our club?

I suggest you crawl back under your dank, dark little stone and do a lot of research.

The fans of Q.P,R are some of the best in the country, they have put money into buckets to keep the club going.

We have had some of the best players this country has produced turn out for us.

So we actually have some luck after everything we have gone through.

Let me tell you, we deserve it.
 
All the above comments are spot on, this Dennis idiot knows naff all about whats going on in the world of modern day football.If our Flavio & co would have invested or shown an interest in one of the so called big premiership sides would he have still written this article? As a life long R's supporter it's a breath of fresh air to see big money investors choose a club like ours where they can build the club back up to where we belong rather than sticking it into an already top prem side for instant gratifacation. I just want what all Q.P.R. fans want GLOBAL FOOTBALL DOMINATION.
 
I am going to keep this short and sharp because Mr Dennis has somehow managed to come up with one of the most worthless pieces of journalism ever seen, and in the process, has undermined and discredited his profession royally. I can only hope for his sake that he did not spend long writing it; if he did, I am worried.

You write "gloat". Aren't we allowed to enjoy ourselves a bit after spending years worrying about the club's very existence? Have you ever been to a football match? If you had, you might've noticed that the fans, any team's fans, sometimes chant amusing things. Lighten up man!

Do you think our owners will spend all their money on the club?

Why is QPR doing well "utterly alarming and deeply depressing"? Hadn't you noticed that football is a business now? Or is it just that you prefer to see today's "big clubs" prospering thanks to deep pockets? Should QPR have walked away from the financial lifeline we were offered by Flavio and Bernie and said "No, keep your money, we'll take administration for the second time, and almost certain relegation, thank you very much?"

As for this statement, "The QPR deal has reshaped football's landscape", have you been away in deep space with no radio? Did you miss the last ten years? What about all the other clubs who have been bankrolled for years?

As for the "At other clubs" sentence, are you mad? The club of which you speak IS QPR! That was us, since 2001. We had to do bucket collections at the ground to survive, and one of our players even donated his signing on fee to keep us solvent when we were FORCED to sell him.

QPR has spent very little on players in the last 6-7 years and have struggled as a result. We have developed our own players over this time, like Angelo Balanta, Pat Kanyuka and Ray Jones, all of whom have done well in the first team in the last year. OK, we have bought a lot of players this month but try adding up what we have spent. We are not talking silly money, like our friends in the Prem. Rowan Vine cost one twelfth of the figure which Bolton rejected for Anelka.

Anyway, enough. This poorly researched and poorly concieved piece was not worthy of comment in the first place.

You Rs

Midlands Hoop
 
I am amazed that Mr Dennis has the nerve to publish such obvious sour grapes. I dare say I might have felt the same if Norwich had been bought out of trouble but I would have the good sense to keep my feelings to myself. Rock on, Rangers.
 
Mr Dennis you have the right of reply....and very little journalistic talent to go with it.
You R'sssss!!
 
QPR forever!
 
Dennis you are a total plum.

So it's all doom and gloom now that a club Hours away from going under and being lost from the football lanscape for good has a bit of cash? I can't remember you writing what a disaster to English football it would be to loose one of its oldest clubs, or am I mistaken?

Poor old Bernie,Flavio and Mittal, they've gone and ruined the game. And stupid me. I thought football was in trouble when Spurs football lover (ha ha ha) Alan Sugar was allowed the vital vote to secure Sky their £305m five year deal, that would allow him to make maga bucks knocking out Amstrad dishes for that twat Murdoch. Anyone think to say that someone with such business interests in the result of such a vote sould abstain? Not that it matters much. If it had been Greg Dyke to come out on top, who invited the top bods to dinner in November 1990, to underline the fact he was only interested in showing the big five clubs of the time. And who were the first set of supporters to be forced to follow their team hundreds of miles away on a monday night just for Sky? Queens Park Rangers, who were away at Man City. Funny how things turn around isn't it? Now go f**k yourself.
 
One word - Muppet!!!
 
Leave the little fellow alone ,he obviously needs medical attention!
 
This complete 'Alien' to REAL life really should take his god give right to naff off home and never come back.

What a complete pile of nonsense, he's missed the past 10-15 years of football news, has absolutely NO understanding of our past history.

Why would a reporter PUBLICLY announce there jealousy towards our club is such a blatant manner. Even every other reporter on this planet must have shook there heads when there read this.

Totally unreal. Complete pathetic loser that should go back to ploughing his field.

Now I’m off to line the cat litter tray with your report, in fact I won’t even insult my cat’s ass with such rubbish.
 
Why have we all taken the bait like mice - when we all clearly know that Mr Dennis is clearly biased against the richest club on the planet - maybe he couldn't muster up a proper story so he took to rangers bashing to fill his little allocated space in what is a paper written by crinklies for crinklies - bring on the premiership and bring the champions league it is only what we deserve after the last 20 years of mis management and oh by the way THANK YOU GP, GP's Daughter,Uncles Aunts and anyone else who remortgaged thier homes to make the dream a reality - maybe Mr Dennis you may strke it lucky one day - sorry wrong Dennis, I was thinking of Les
 
Now people have had their say, in the words of Mrs Delia Smith "Let's be having you" and "where are you" P**ick.
 
If the new owners were buying Premier League or overseas mercenaries, I could well understand where Dennis is coming from. We've had that with Chelsea, where Abramovitch was happy to admit that he intended buying success.

The new guys at QPR have a 3 year plan to get promotion, and have been buying young, mainly English, players that most football fans will never have heard of, for modest sums. This isn't riches-led extravagance, it's a methodical, reasoned, ethical strategy.

Trouble is, the critics want their cake and eat it. They deride us for buying little-known footballers to underpin the new team, yet they'd be the first to deride us if we were buying 'names'.

Frankly, I don't care. After 10 nightmare years, including administration, boardroom shenanigans, young players being tragically killed, and other disasters too numerous to mention, I for one am delighted with the news. We deserve it, and I'm damn well going to enjoy it, with r without the blessing of Mr Dennis.
 
Even by your own low standards that is probably the poorest article ever written about a football team. Jeez its no wonder you have spent your years writing drivel for sub-standard papers. Hey next step up the ladder for you is the pun writer for The Sun. No scrub that idea you don't have the imagination.
 
I will never buy the Express again!! This article is just another example of media hacks creating and writing stories to 'sell' their publications.

This chap, whoever he is, is obviously very bitter and has little or no understanding of the way sport 'globally' is developing and becoming a multi-billion dollar industry in it's own right. Creating jobs for hundreds of thousands of people as well as giving millions of fans boundless entertainment and something to talk about on Monday mornings.

in conclusion this poor deluded chap appears to perform his job with utter incompetance, begging the question about how competant his management actually are and ultimately bringong into question the credibility of the publication he writes for!!

Up the R's and lets enjoy the future we almost didn't have.
 
people like mr dennis will only make our club and supporters stronger if thats possible! ps i wonder if you will be ringing for journo tickets when we are playing real madrid or milan in the champions league
 
flavio, get the boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Didn't really want to respond - but I stopped buying the Standard because of rubbish like I've just read from Mick Dennis - now I'll stop buying the Express (no loss - they never properly report QPR anyway!) Obviously Dennis felt that he "had" to speak out against QPR - a team that was literally hours from going out of existence without the timely intervention of Briatore & Ecclestone! After all, other pundits and writers all seem to wish QPR well and seem delighted that the club not only has secured their present but guaranteed their future - which, with the wise heads now running the club, should include a return to the Premiership in the not-too-distant future. As for the quality of the ground - has Mr Dennis been to places like Colchester, which I (regrettably) have? Hardly a palace! Put your money where your mouth is Dennis - go visit all 92 league clubs - how many are like the Emirates Stadium or Stamford Bridge or Old Trafford? Er, let me think!
 
This "article" ( written by a truly useless "article" ) is not worthy of a response from fans who have remained loyal to the Super Hoops through thin & thinner & are now about to receive their reward !
Fortunately, the only other time you may be exposed to such an incredibly moronic torrent of drivel is if you buy fish & chips !
 
wanker
 
Come over to http://www.clubfanzine.com/QPR/forum.posts.php?id_t=20028#8

any time you like and I'll stroke your hair, little troll
 
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what a pathetic and bitterly jealous man you are mr dennis
 
ignore him everyone , we all know the truth about our great football club and its fans so thats all that matters eh ??
 
your mums your dad your dads your mum your interbreed you norwich scum
 
Mr Dennis, what an interesting view of selective football club evaluation. According to your limited perspective only certain clubs ought to be allowed to be lucky. Fulham, Reading, Wigan, Chelsea and many others only owe their existance in the Premiership to the whims and egos of impossibly rich patriarchs. They have no divine right in terms of support, tradition nor do they have the sustained support base to warrant their lofty status. What your bitter little snipe ignores is that there is a very simple connection between the 19th century oligarchs who salted their teams with the best players and the success of cash rich multi-national corporations. Chelsea'a most important "player" besides Abramovicz is Kenyon not Drogba. What seems to offend you most is the transformation of London's best club back to LONDON'S BEST CLUB. I am unaware, besides the traditional bile the Below "Standard" reserved for QPR of your motivation for the sheer curmudgeonly and clownish level of your ill-informed rant but I find it hilariously funny that The Express permits you column space. What goes round comes round. It may gall you that QPR might be able to compete with other supposedly "bigger" clubs but our good fortune is merely a symptom and not an occasion of the general woe besetting professional football. By all means, please cast your teddy from the pram as Rangers progress but I would seriously contend that it is your sad and pitiable nonsense which is the truly shabby and shoddy aspect of the game that has been created by sub-"Standard" journalists producing grim and spiteful junk like your ill-researched and abysmally assertive article. wake up. Ingest the coffee smells - it's not our fault that you are so bitter and bereft of hope. Believe - maybe it could happen to whatever side you support - but in view of your diatribe - I rather hope it never does. See you in Europe!
 
This man is a fool.

u Rssssssssssss
 
QPR have been a club maybe in the lower leagues but one of the best supported clubs in london. its absurd to say that the arrival of eccleston mittal and briatore is 'unfair' - QPR have suffered all the ups and downs and are quite due some good news i think. No club wants to go into adminitstration and when QPR came so close last year no one wanted them to go bankrupt. The new money is welcome and yeah..., deal with it.
 
what a twat.... come on you R'SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
 
Great comments Rangers fans - I doubt Dennis will read it but it certainly set the record straight.
Someone should send a few of these responses into the Express & see if they print them...

Ww've hardly even started spending yet, couple of million on 7/8 players. I think it's been very conservative so far.

Roll on the success, god knows we deserve it
 
Pretty much everything that needs to be said in response to this clown is already said. However, as a Rangers fan for more than 30 years I have had the dubious pleasure of visiting many grounds around the Country - thanks to Scunny this season I am up to 73 venues - and am looking forwardto adding some more next year - when visiting some of the soulless new wave Premier gounds as yet unvisited. The last ten years or so in football's wilderness has been an education and believe me Mr Dennis, your description of the Rangers experience for visiting fans pales into insignificance when compared to some of the stadia around the lower leagues. Still, one thing they all have is loyal and passionate fans that understand about the motto Real Football - Real Fans - unlike you and your plastic and very bitter view on our new found destiny. What you will never understand is that despite the inevitable band wagon of prawn sandwich eating dross that we will no doubt inherit, W12 will remain a spiritual home to thousands of loyal and long suffering legends - We are QPR and will be FOREVER more.
Bluehooper.
 
Mick Dennis is the reason why I stopped buying the Standard; misinformed, biased, errant crap. We, the real Rs fans, have been through two relegations, death, board room truama, sell-outs, buy-outs, administration and near administration. i was there for Vauxhakk Motors; i was here for the 1-0 defeat against Port Vale at home on a horrible wet Tuesday night. All this against a backdrop of terrible football and poor management, on and off the pitch.

Money=football; where has this idiot been? Look at Ipswich and Coventry recently; two proud clubs facing bankruptcy and administration; both bought by wealthy business men and I hope saved to give their fans pride and success. Where is Dennis' ire and irritation there, then?

I will enjoy every single game, every goal, every point and every win; I deserve it, Rs fans deserve it and the club and shepherds bush deserve it.

We are QPR!! C'mon U Soopah Hoopsah!!
 
Here's how you can let this sad little man know (and hopefully his bosses!!!!!)

http://www.express.co.uk/comments/viewall/30938
 
Mr. Dennis you are truly the biggest 'Bell End' I have ever come across! Are you sure that you are not a jealous Chelsea scummer?!!!
 
WHAT A shabby, shoddy LITTLE ARTICLE
Even by your standards, Mr Dennis, this piece was low.

You have had an agenda with this club for so long, you don’t even bother to disguise your hatred towards it. Do you really harbour any delusions that readers takes you seriously as a journalist?

The sour grapes just ooze from every bitter sentence. Why don’t you get Delia to rustle up something warm and comforting to take the nasty taste out of your mouth. You’re going to need it in Division one.
 
Mr Dennis, I was listening to Talksport the other day (thats the radio station that discusses sporting issues, you should give it a go, it may inform your future writing),and they were interviewing Jeff Stenning, that most successful journalist and face of sky sports about his views on the takeover of QPR. Being a true football fan he described the R's as 'a proper club', with as you can see, a 'loyal and passionate fan base' who deserve the fortune they've found. This comes from somebody who understands what the modern game is all about, and appreciates what QPR supporters have experienced over the last ten years. A journalist that people believe in.

The amount of money of football is ridiculous, but inarticulate, bitter and ignorant articles such as yours doesn't help the situation. I'm hoping you were writing this as joke, but being the Express you probably weren't.

I hope you take notice of some of the comments posted for you, as every point you have made has been argued against so well. Then maybe you could write another more well informed article, where some of the grotty little observations you've made can be rectified. I look forward to reading it soon.
 
Why don't you do a fashion coloumn as you know F'all about football. You Norwich mug. Why don't you delete the first letter of your surmane and change it with your first intial.Say's it all really.
 
Looks like you've touched a few nerves here...well done !!

Can't really argue with much of what you said, yes QPR are a small meaningless club who briefly flirted with the higher echelons of football but in the big scheme of things are a nothing side.

However money talks and wise investment could see QPR do well. To the levelof CHelsea ? Unlikely, you have to remember that Chelsea were already established as a top premiership side, qualified for the Champions league, winners of two FA Cups a league cup, CupWinners Cup, Charity Shield and Super Cup in the 5-10 years preceding Abramovichs arrival. His money enabled Chelsea to go that extra step and compete for the Premiership.

QPR are a nothing club, who may have won the lottery, any success that now comes their way can only be attributed to money and little else...for QPR read Orient, Scunthorpe, Oldham etc
 
dennis your a cock
 
The last 'Anonymous' post makes interesting reading... the level of a three year old, but interesting nonetheless.

They really should get some new lenses for their glasses - their view of the world seems to be tainted by the green tint of jealousy. It's easy to hide behind an Anonymous tagline when writing such moronic prose as they have.

need to state: Mr Dennis responded via email, and his reply is posted on BBC 606. Fair play for responding at all. Not many do.
 
Shrimpmeister, Simple questions other than a single league cup, and some lower league trophies what exactly have QPR achieved ?

QPR's fanbase, average to low ?

Stadium ? average to poor.

Current position nearer the first division than premiership.

How are QPR different to Watford Palace or Orient ?

If you answer the above honestly you'll see that nothing I said was incorrect. QPR are a middling club who were on the way down further still, and have fortunately landed the lottery.
Will this bring them success ? I think it will bring an improvement, the odd cup run, but silverware ? Not for along time yet.
 
Dear oh dear oh dear Mr Dennis.
What a fool you are, the fact that our glorious club was just hours from going bust and out of existence, the fact that R'ss fans have worried and stressed for years over our precious club, but still stayed loyal, the fact that the fans have dug deep into our own almost empty pockets to give what we could to our club, doesnt make your very sad little write up.

The fact that we got lucky and got some much needed cash and more to the point much needed business men into our football club HAS made it. And then you have the cheek to slag us off for it. Why don't you delve a bit deeper into our history, then maybe you can write something a little more accurate about our club.
 
To the anonymous Chelsea fan
Before Abramovich moved in you had Harding to bankroll your club before that QPR were an Established Top Flight Side and Chelsea were Yo Yo no hopers If they can become a big club so can we
 
To Mr Aanonymous: we are different because we are a team on the up, with the potential to achieve great things, and yes, to win trophies. Our past history is one of underachievement, and fiscal mismanagement, and administration, and turmoil both on and off the pitch.

Our future, however, is rosy - not six months after we were only a couple of hours from extinction.

We are QPR - warts and all. Past, present, and future. By living in the past, just as Mr Dennis did on his article, you are falling into the same trap he did - taking 2 and 2 and getting "I hate QPR so I'll post an illogical argument and call it proof".
 
Is this really journalism???

As a young Superhoops supporter who can only remember a couple of seasons of premiership footy, it causes me dismay to think that how much jealousy is caused about wealthy businessmen buying clubs. I have followed the R's through thin and thin my lowest ebb being as a fan describe above the loss to Vauxhall Motors!!! I am now looking forward to some good times and have already encountered a few...

Sat on a train near finsbury park, I overheard Arsenal fans rubbishing the R's new found wealth! Seems like the jealousy runs throughout even in the highest echelons of football supporters.

As for our ground? Anyone who follows their team like the R's fans will tell you that there is no atmosphere than that of LOFTUS ROAD! Nuff said, who cares about the away fans during the match anyway? Do Norwich fans care about us? DO THEY F**K!

As for being a mediocre club, who else other than the Superhoops played the beautiful passing game when the were relegated to League one and anywhere else they have played? For the twat who wrote this, QUEENS PARK RANGERS, thats who.

Anyone who has looked at our signings in the recent couple of weeks can see that we are not just buying instantanious 'Abramovich' success but are trying to shape a football club that can earn merit with each game, English players included, we have a plan, and that plan thanks to Ecllestone and Co is QUEENS PARK RANGERS!

Don't let anyone rubbish us, I have that for too many years! (That goes for any supporter of any club)
 
Dennis, you are invited to come and sit with me in Ellerslie road at the next home game. We can have a bovril together and chat face to face about your views of how the takeover has ruined the game of football rather than you hiding behind a paper.

Briatore is one of the most respected businessmen in sport and just listening to him talk about his plans for QPR is exciting alone.

Like many have said before me, each year the gap between the premiership and the lower leagues gets wider and the only way you compete is with money and hard graft. Its the hard graft that I think has passed you by and shows your lack of understanding for the game. We have pawned ourselves over the last few years just to survive, unlike Leeds who went into Admin and have popped out of it the other end playing at a 40000 seater stadium without debt. I could'nt see Hammersmith and Fulham council buying our ground to help us survive!!

Get a life

You R'sssss
 
To the anonymous poster who just agreed with the Dennis article.

Yes Rangers have a small ground, average attendance and haven't won a great deal but neither had most clubs, Chelsea particularly, until they had a wealthy backer. They hadn't won a championship since the 50's or 60's and were never going to until Abramovich. A couple of FA cups with Harding's cash I believe. They had a small golden period FORTY years back, that doesn't make them a footballing giant I'm afraid. By that token Blackpool and Preston are still massive clubs. You're only as big as your recent successes sadly. You win silverware, fan base goes up. You don't, it falls. Simple. I remember watching Chelsea under Hoddle getting a gate of 9000. There's your big club son. Chelsea get 40,000 because they've bought success, there's no reason to presume other clubs who get bank rolled can't do the same (within reason obviously).
 
Fellar you're truly deluded if you're trying to compare QPR with Chelsea !

True there were some very poor crowds at Chelsea back 15-25 years ago, pre Sky and Champions league when everybodys crowds dipped...but check your facts first, what was Chelseas average crowds in the two seasons preceding Abramovich taking over ???? go on have a stab in the dark........ok I'll tell you 40k !
How about ten years ago then ? true they were much lower then, about 36k.


Historically Chelsea's crowds are the 5th biggest in the Country behind only Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs.

But hey why let facts spoil the myth...all together now "Where were you when you were shit "
 
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